[torqueusers] torque daemons can not be stopeed during uninstall

Steve Young chemadm at hamilton.edu
Tue Dec 9 14:32:39 MST 2008

	No I don't use rpm versions of torque server because too many times  
you get all sorts of dependancy problems. I'd rather compile it  
against the libs I currently have installed on the server.

  I do expect that for rpm packages (that I do use), when I tell it to  
remove the package that it actually does stop the daemon and remove  
the package. That seems to be the way most rpm's work. I would be a  
little confused to remove the rpm and find that afterwards there is  
still the daemon running? I could see using an rpm package for the  
client nodes (pbs_mom).  There I would still expect that a uninstall  
would stop the daemon and then remove the package.

	For me, It's much easier to compile the app and when I need to make  
changes/upgrades I can compile another version and a quick stop of the  
daemon and start of the new daemon will get me running. If there are  
problems I can quickly revert back to the previous version. Suppose I  
remove the rpm package and try to install a new version only to find  
out that because of dependancies that I can't install the new version.  
Now I'm stuck and I hope I can re-install the old version of the  
package and get everything configured back the way I had it. This is  
why I don't like to use rpm's for certain server applications.

	I do understand your point Garrick, and I agree with you about  
torque. It can be a tricky beast sometimes. I'm just pointing out that  
as an Admin I would actually expect that an rpm package would stop the  
daemon and remove it.  Why would anyone not want it removed if that's  
what they asked for?


On Dec 9, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Garrick Staples wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 03:43:35PM -0500, Steve Young alleged:
>> Hi,
>> 	I would have to agree that if I were (dumb enough) to run the rpm
>> command to remove the package on a production system that it would
>> work like most all other rpm's.... run the init script to stop the
>> daemon and remove it. This is why I wouldn't use an rpm for  
>> torque....
>> I would rather compile/configure it myself.
> You don't use the rpm because of behaviour that it doesn't actually  
> do?
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> University of Southern California
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